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jiver

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Posted At: 24/06/2009 12:39:56

In light of the scandel of overpayment of council tax, has anyone been succesful in being reinbursed of over payment going back to 1993. I disputed my own at the time and was put into the next band, that was in 1994. You can find out what everyone is paying in the same post code. i know what everyone is paying in my road just by a couple of clicks.
Sandgrounder2494

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Posted At: 25/06/2009 13:07:11

It isn't just with the older houses that this can happen. I live on a modern estate, less than 10 yearsold which is still being built. It has been found on several occasions through our local community association, that the same style of house in another street is on a different valuation band. In all the cases that have come to light the people living in the higher banding have gone to the council and negotiated a reduction and repayment of the overpayment. Pirate Big cheesy grin
linwight

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Posted At: 25/06/2009 15:46:08

It is something I'd like to check. Can you please explain how to discover the council tax on local houses?
gloucester

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Posted At: 25/06/2009 18:35:02

Quoting jiver (24/06/2009 @ 12:39:56):

You can find out what everyone is paying in the same post code.


I didn't know this either.

For those of you wondering about this - and in the current absence of a response to the preceding request - I've found out via Googling that you need to go to http://www.voa.gov.uk/council_tax/cti_home.htm

Feed in a postcode and the results appear - so for my village since I know all the postcodes I can find out all the council tax payments people are making.
gloucester

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Posted At: 25/06/2009 18:38:21

Interestingly I find my house was rebanded from G to F two years before I bought it. Two others are noted as such on the same date - was 1993 the date of introduction of Council Tax? I tried to challenge it when I moved in but it was clear that it wouldn't succeed.
jiver

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Posted At: 25/06/2009 19:58:05

1993 was the year it came in, we disputed ours then and went down one grade.
The councils had time limit to set the rates so they went around in a car, settings the rate by driving by. I printed my postcode off and gave them a friend who lives a few doors away, More than 60% of houses same as mine are in the next band.
jiver

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Posted At: 25/06/2009 20:16:39

Easy way to find out more, just go on the GMTV site, enter Martin lewis and there is a video of him explaining how it all came about, the year was 1991 not 1993
linwight

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Posted At: 26/06/2009 07:59:43

Thanks for that information. I guess that its all based on property valuation? The house next door to me is one band below mine and all the others are at least two bands below. The only property with the same valuation is the farm across the road.

gloucester

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Posted At: 28/06/2009 12:10:29

Checking my brother's house, his and two others the same opposite are all Band D but next door is only Band C. He's now wondering whether to contest his banding but his house, unlike the other three, now has an extension on the back so might not change...
linwight

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Posted At: 28/06/2009 12:39:35

There is obvious concern that in attempting to reduce the banding, the powers that be may in fact increase it and that of neighbours too!
LittlebrookLyn

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Posted At: 06/07/2009 12:44:48

I tried to get my mother's council tax band reduced as she is in Band E and lives in a tiny 2 bedroom semi detached bungalow whilst most of her road has much bigger 3 bedroom semis that are in the same band as she is. I was quite confident that she would get a reduction to Band D, but no, they wrote to her and said that having reviewed her road they felt she was in the correct band. I don't agree with their decision at all but I guess there isn't anything else I can do about it.
Morticia

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Posted At: 06/07/2009 13:53:55

It is the Valuation Office Agency(Government agency, parent department is the Inland Revenue) that bands domestic properties and deals with appeals against those bands, not the local authorities, who send out the bills and collect the money.
Council tax bands are based on the capital value of a property on 1/4/91 and came into being on 1/4/93. There has been no revaluation since, a scheduled one having been cancelled
So your band is still based on what it should have sold for on 1/4/91, the evidence for this being houses that actually sold in the area at that time. Some mistakes were made but the bands were not just based on Valuation staff driving up and down, as a lot of people seem to think, they held floor plans and areas for nearly every property which could be referred to, as well as all the sales information for everything in the area.
Mistakes were made and this was usually because a property had plus or minus factors affecting the value that only a full inspection would have revealed, the short time scale and small number of staff from conception to implementation made individual inspections impossible.


Morticia

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Posted At: 08/07/2009 11:20:15


Sorry, I forgot to add that new houses, being built today, will still have their band based on what they would have been worth on 1/4/91, if they had been there, based of course on what similar houses were selling for in the area at the time.
That way practically identical houses, built 20 years apart should have the same band, all else being reasonably equal.

Truebluelady

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Posted At: 07/08/2009 01:04:54

One of my old bosses used to work as a survey for the LA. He did 'drive by' valuations before I worked for him (He's now an estate agent), so was forearmed when I went to get my council tax banding changed because I knew that only the beginning of my road had been looked at. These houses are ALL semis and ALL extended (2 storey extensions). Mine was the same basic size, had no extension and was (and is) a mid-terraced property. Got the banding put down one notch.

Now I am in a similar position to LittlebrookLyn, in that I want to get my mother's property re-valued, because although it is a 4 bed detached house (and the whole road are different), it used to have a large garden, by half of the garden was compulsory purchesed some years ago when they built an access tunnel underneath it for the port/harbour.

Do others on here think I stand a chance?

Sandgrounder2494

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Posted At: 07/08/2009 23:07:28

Quoting Truebluelady (07/08/2009 @ 01:04:54):
Now I am in a similar position to LittlebrookLyn, in that I want to get my mother's property re-valued, because although it is a 4 bed detached house (and the whole road are different), it used to have a large garden, by half of the garden was compulsory purchesed some years ago when they built an access tunnel underneath it for the port/harbour.

Do others on here think I stand a chance?



Have a look at this Website and then decide with regard item 3. As the saying goes. Nothing ventured nothing gained. Wink Big Grin
Truebluelady

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Posted At: 07/08/2009 23:44:17

Both 2 and 3 seem to apply. Thank you for the link - More ammunition the better!

Morticia

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Posted At: 09/08/2009 14:07:27


You can appeal if there has been a Material Change to the property but there are a couple of points you should bear in mind.
Firstly, was the change something that was taken into account on the valuation of the property in the first place? If not then its removal/alteration cannot be reflected now.

Secondly, it depends where in its band the house fell in 1991.
As you are aware houses were put into value bands, for instance, a house worth£130,000 on 1/4/91 would have been put into band F(£120,000-£160,000). If something happens to that property which would mean that it would only have been worth £115,000 on 1/4/91, then the band could be reduced, effective from the date of the change. If however the house was at the very top of the band, and the change would have knocked the same £15,000 off its 1991 value, then no reduction could be given.

Truebluelady

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Posted At: 09/08/2009 15:15:46

Upset
Morticia

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Posted At: 09/08/2009 15:45:04


As you may have gathered I worked for the VOA before taking very welcome retirement.
Their website is actually very good for explaining most aspects of council tax, but if I can be of any help to clarify anything(and I can remember the relevant legislation-I don`t try to keep up to date nowHappy) then I will be happy to help.

welshman

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Posted At: 10/08/2009 00:39:21

Yes 7 years ago ,I successfully challenged Bassetlaw Council in North Notts and was re-imbursed for overpayment back to 1994 when I purchased that property.The property was oved down one band.
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