Bird Descrimination

Keeping out Blackbirds

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Posted At: 26/12/2009 19:05:26

Does anybody have dimensions for constructing a bird table purely for the 'smaller' birds i.e. sparrows,chaffs., tits, robins etc. I thought it would be a case of an optimum roof to floor gap but I must have it wrong as Blackbirds just "bully" the small birds out of the way nevermind the rate of birdfood consumption.
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Posted At: 26/12/2009 20:34:47

Blackbirds are ground/flat surface feeders so for the other birds have hanging feeders, filled with seeds and nuts. The blackbirds will use any flat surface.

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Posted At: 26/12/2009 21:23:41

Well our blackbirds don't know they are meant to be ground feeders. We have four in our garden each day and they spend all their time gorging on not only the food trays but they have learnt to get at the hanging fat balls in baskets and the peanuts. They have also attempted to get at the coconut halves. They bully all the other birds and eat all the fresh food which we have to put put out three times a day as the temperatures have been between minus 8 to 2 and the smaller birds can't get to it. They even squabble amongst themselves.
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Posted At: 26/12/2009 21:49:45

I did say they are ground/flat surface feeders, so will go to trays. We are inundated with blackbirds but they just feed off what is dropped from the bird feeders, by the other birds. peace and harmony reigns in our gardenBig cheesy grin

The one thing the blackbirds will eat, is the tomatoes that I sometimes put out for my tortoises in the summer. Now that DOES annoy me.

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Posted At: 26/12/2009 21:49:45

I did say they are ground/flat surface feeders, so will go to trays. We are inundated with blackbirds but they just feed off what is dropped from the bird feeders, by the other birds. peace and harmony reigns in our gardenBig cheesy grin

The one thing the blackbirds will eat, is the tomatoes that I sometimes put out for my tortoises in the summer. Now that DOES annoy me.

Celyn
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Posted At: 27/12/2009 18:24:59

It's the damn pigeons that irritate the hell out of me and nick all the food I put out for the smaller birds. Anyone got a solution (other than a shotgun)? I use an RSPB cage on the floor which keeps them out but it only works for ground feeders obviously.
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Posted At: 27/12/2009 23:24:08

Quoting Italian (27/12/2009 @ 18:24:59):
It's the damn pigeons that irritate the hell out of me and nick all the food I put out for the smaller birds. Anyone got a solution (other than a shotgun)? I use an RSPB cage on the floor which keeps them out but it only works for ground feeders obviously.


Do you using hanging feeders? I find the Wood Pidgeons from the surrounding fields do not touch these.

Celyn
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Posted At: 27/12/2009 23:48:28

We had a flock of Long Tailed Tits in our garden today ... they love the fat balls
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Posted At: 28/12/2009 09:47:29

Put some decorative bark chippings along the side of your path, the Blackbirds spend all day digging that up and making a right mess, I forgive them, as they don't bother the bird tables.
Got some batter left over? Don't pour it away, make batter crisps, like you could get from the chip shop. Slowly dribble the batter into the hot chip pan oil/fat, when nice and crisp drain them. Scatter them on the garden table, they're soon gone.
madmaggot

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Posted At: 27/01/2010 19:56:30

Just construct a mesh 'cage' around the bird table. You can get mesh in many sizes so choose one to suit the size bird that you wish to let onto the table. (But do put something out for the bigger birds as well!) Happy
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Posted At: 27/01/2010 20:48:23

Hi ~ I feed large and small wild birds where I live, all from a flat surface on the ground opposite our home at the foot of a tree! The large birds need feeding in the winter time, just as much as the small birds do, and we have Robins happily feeding by the side of Pigeons, Blackbirds and Crows. The birds wait high up in the tree for me to go out every morning to feed them, and what a treat that is for us!Happy
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Posted At: 27/01/2010 21:09:06

Today we had several Goldcrests, having a lovely time flitting between my winter Jasmine and a conifer. They have nested in the conifers in the last two years. I was delighted to see them back again.

celyn
bendigo

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Posted At: 05/02/2010 21:14:37

The robins frighten off the tits, The Blackbirds frighten off the Robins, The Pigeons scare off the Blackbirds and the Squirrels frighten off the Pigeons and the cats chase off the squirrels.Thank god we havent got a dog!! Where does one draw the line they are al Gods creatures and all have to feed and survive. We do our best to see that they all get their share. l
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Posted At: 05/02/2010 21:27:53

That's nature for you bendigo. It's called balancing. You supply the food and keep your fingers crossedHmmm

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Posted At: 07/02/2010 17:40:36

The blackbirds in my garden seem to be pretty well behaved & just feed on the food on the ground while the smaller birds make full use of the feeders.
However when the song thrushes turn up the blackbirds get bullied by them & keep their distance. The starlings upset them all, probably cos there's so many of them & they seem to hang on any type of feeder.
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Posted At: 07/02/2010 18:07:35

My problem is not the bird bullying, I,m afraid it is rats.
Since I increased the supply of bird food,during the cold weather,
nuts seeds and fat ball and coconuts, the rats have been running around my garden like they own the place.
They chase off larger birds, have already dispatched the squirrels, and I have lost control.
I have had to inform the council who have promised to bait them soon, but not on our property.

We have put rat poison in hidden places but they always come back and have even set up home in the compost bin.
I have a dog who just ignores them.
Any tips or advice please.?
I have been told to stop feeding the birds, but cant bring myself to do that after 15 years.
I get so many,and they nest in the garden.
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Posted At: 07/02/2010 19:04:31

I had exactly the same problem ldanyelle. The council pest control department kept baiting down their holes, and then covering with large stones. It took 18 months to clear them. Recently they came back and moved into our garage, attached to the house and accessible through the house, during the snow.

I moved the bird feeders much nearer the house, hoping that it would discourage them. The birds stopped feeding for a while, but soon came back when they got used to the new location.

Celyn
MrGumby

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Posted At: 17/02/2010 23:19:38

I use chicken wire to discriminate between bird sizes, having found that blackbirds ate everything I put out before anything else got a look in. The blackbirds get plenty of food that other birds drop from the table and various feeders as well as apples and other fruit that I put out. I even have a female blackbird who taps on the patio doors every day until I go out and feed her sultanas - she takes them from my hand.

I simply fix chicken wire all round my tables, between floor and roof. Then I cut through a strand or two on each side and enlarge the holes enough for anything up to robin size but too small for blackbirds, pigeons, etc. It's easy to adjust the hole size if you don't get it quite right by re-bending the wire.

Most small birds are perfectly happy to use the table - tits, robins, dunnocks and more.

The easy way to fix the wire is with a staple gun, but you'll want to be able to get in there for cleaning. Chicken wire is springy enough to be pulled over nail heads. So fix one end with staples and wrap it round the table, hooking it onto nails top and bottom back at the start. In fact, you might want to hook it onto a pair of nails at each corner.

Actually, there is enough spring in the chicken wire for it to hold itself in place, the cut ends of wire gripping the floor and roof, if the table design is suitable and you cut the wire to just the right size. I do that on the final side, to make it easy to open it up and put food on the table, although simply throwing food through the wire generally works fine.

Sorry if that sounds complicated. It isn't! I'll try and take a couple of photos in the morning and post them.

Where to get chicken wire? It's difficult to buy it in small quantities, so ask a friend or neighbour who keeps chickens or post a 'Wanted' on Freecycle.

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Posted At: 20/02/2010 17:57:32

Quoting bendigo (05/02/2010 @ 21:14:37):
The robins frighten off the tits, The Blackbirds frighten off the Robins, The Pigeons scare off the Blackbirds and the Squirrels frighten off the Pigeons and the cats chase off the squirrels.Thank god we havent got a dog!! Where does one draw the line they are al Gods creatures and all have to feed and survive. We do our best to see that they all get their share. l

We have two dogs who stand under the hannging feeders to see what they can get if we let them!
We send the dogs out for a bit - bring them in and then feed the birds and allow them to be undisturb3ed for a while - I am afraid the birds have to ssquable amongst themseves but those who feed from the hanging feeders make sure there is enough on the ground for the ground feeders! Today a Woodpecker saw of the Jackdaws who had seen of the Tits including a couple Male and Femail Beraded tit! had never seen one of those before - the wrens seem to have gone with the cold weather - hope they survived!Not sure
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